Now playing Info exporter
I can get audio to radionomy but I don't know what I need to put in the
web export section -
Web export
URL (what radionomy url do I need to put in here)
Password (do I need a password here?)
Custom data (-) what if anything goes here
Method (post, get, get (custom))
Radionomy has API but I'm trying to figure that out too.
Thanks
Jim Bickel
For Radionomy you do not need any API information. It will pull the title and artist off of your stream.
Once you have one concurrent listener it will switch from your Radionomy playlist to your live stream.
Please use search before starting new topics - LMGTFY (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Radionomy+API).
Chaos Radio is right - there is no now playing update option in Radionomy API.
You should have read documentation on radionomy forums (http://board.radionomy.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=915) or this post about available API requests (http://board.radionomy.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=74).
Excuse me for not being totally 100% up to speed. I'm asking for help. I have searched the forum indexes on both sides RN and RDJ. I wasn't able to make heads or tails of either forum. Thought maybe somebody that is using both (Chaos Radio) might be able to dumb it down for me so I could do the things I need to do to put together a great station for my community instead of fumbling the ball on all the technical stuff. I'm not a computer geek. I'm not a software know it all. I do know what I want to accomplish with my radio station for my community. I'm just trying to make sure I'm doing the technical stuff right so it sounds right from that end. If I knew how to do it I wouldn't ever have to be on the forum.
Thanks for your understanding and patience with us new guys.
I am not on Radionomy. Had read few times after googling and that's all. This time was exactly that - searched and found it.
If you want someone to help you, be a bit more patient and polite. Posting big blocks of unreadable text doesn't help.
Now, back to your issue; Does you stream send metadata? You can check that by opening the stream in any modern media player like VLC. If the stream contains metadata, VLC Player should show current title in window title and via Tools > Media Information.
If data is not there, we should determine what encode you are using and if it forwards data from RadioDJ. Would have been nice if you mentioned that in you original post.
How does one go about opening the stream in the media player? I am using Now Playing Exporter plugin and some encoder plugin on radiodj.
Quotehe API "Current Song" allows you to display the last or the two last tracks played on your radio.
It allows you to display data on your own web site, not send updates to Radionomy.
Radionomy gets data from you audio stream and you encoder has to send the data from RadioDJ.
What encoder are you using?QuoteHow does one go about opening the stream in the media player?
According to this post on Radionomy forum (http://board.radionomy.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=568&start=20#p3093):
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Your streaming radio link will be at this format : listen.radionomy.com/yourradioname; if the auditor comes from a mobile device, an automatic detection will redirect him to the low-level stream of 64 KBps. (if your radio reached 130 hrs / day of course).
If, however, you want to force the use of the 128 Kbps, you will have to use this URL: listen128.radionomy.com/yourradioname. On contrary, if you want to force the use of the 64 Kbps (on give a low level link) you will have to use this URL: listen64.radionomy.com/yourradioname.
The exact stream URL(s) should be available on your Radionomy control panel. That's what I've gathered from searching radionomy forums.
I'm using some encoder plug in on radiodj. I can open that stream (streaming.radionomy.MYSTATION) but it's from the radionomy autodj unless I stream audio from radiodj. And coming from radionomy on that stream there is no metada displayed on the url. Just a player with volume control, pause/play button and streaming time. I thought you were talking about playing the output of encoder locally through a player.
Just downloaded VLC. Plugged in stream. I have metadata when it's running RMO (autodj from radionomy) When I switch to RDJ / some encoder streaming, I hear the audio but the metadata is for what is scheduled or still playing on RMO. It's not seeing metadata from RDJ from what I can tell.
Have you enabled "Auto Title" in some encoder encoder settings?
Here: (http://i.imgur.com/VOmt8ov.png) (http://prntscr.com/6oamtw)
If some encoder is not sending song details when that option is enabled, you should try streaming with standalone some encoder or other encoder.
I found a Getting Started guide for Radionomy here (http://board.radionomy.com/tools/en/links/FAQ-Live.pdf). (PDF)
I don't know how much help it will be, but I found these instuctions (http://www.radiodj.ro/community/index.php?topic=4871.msg28159#msg28159) from when I assisted a member get set up with Live 365. As I recall, it was similar to setting up a Shoutcast server. The A******t plugin has settings for V1 and V2. If the encoder doesn't match the version of server you are broadcasting to, you will hear audio, but no metadata will pass. It's sounding like an encoder mismatch or the Auto Title box isn't ticked as Andy suggested. I have no personal experience with either, but maybe these two links can get you on the right track.
HTH
Good Luck.
J-
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I found it (http://board.radionomy.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=94). It's set up like Shoutcast v1:
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Confirm by OK btn and then start SAM-B, you will see the Legacy MP3 (ACM Codec) in the list.
- Then you get a Converter tab. Choose this Bitrate: 128 kbps and Stereo mode.
- Now we go to the Server details tab. Server type:
* choose Shoutcast V1.
* Server IP: Type the IP server adress (info in the RMO)
* Port: Type the port number (info in the RMO)
* Password: Type the Live-password (When you create your radio this one is the same as the RMO password)
Hey SnowHow!
Thanks for lending a hand. And know-how, I guess. :)
Nice to see you around.
Quote from: AndyDeGroo on April 02, 2015, 12:43:27 AM
Hey SnowHow!
Thanks for lending a hand. And know-how, I guess. :)
Nice to see you around.
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Thanks! I'm sorting through some issues ATM, and I plan to return full on once they're sorted. :)
[/off topic] :hihi:
J-
Thanks guys. I tried your suggestions. Looked at check boxes, made sure it was shoutcast v1. It didn't change anything. I switched this over to B.U.T.T. 0.1.14. RDJ and B.U.T.T. both showing song now playing on RDJ. Radionomy is playing but metadata is still not correct. I'm sure I'm missing something. I just don't know what it is. I've been playing with this RN and RDJ for 3 months. I wish I was more savvy with all of this but I'm really scratching my head. I'll re-read and see if I can find where my problem is in this chain. I don't know if it's RDJ or RN that's throwing me off but I'm sure it's a handshake on RN side.
I have no idea how to set up the API. I just know that if you don't script it right and make too many requests with API your API key is blacklisted and then you can't use it at all. I can't go down that route. I have to get it right so I can get this running smoothly.
I love RDJ and I need RN barter for streaming and licensing. I can't afford to pay as I go withouth that option. If you find out anything or think of anything I'd appreciate your input. Thanks again.
I was a programmer for 20 years. Never wanted to be an engineer. :-) Here at "my station" I'm doing it all. :-) OK well, I'm trying to do it all.
are you using the now_playing.txt file to send out your meta data? That is just one idea. Not sure where butt gets it anymore but, no pun here, has to read something to get the meta data.
When I have BUTT running it's showing the correct artist-title. It's showing what's on RDJ. Radionomy (RN) plays audio from RDJ but it's showing metadata from the last song that played on RMO (autodj) of RN and doesn't update. If it does update, it actually shows the next song on the autodj playlist. So, for some reason, it's not getting the info. That's my hang up.
Butt is set to pull from - C:/Radiodj/data.txt. It does and it (butt) shows the correct information.
????
Odd, I am thinking the server might be monkey spanked, IE mucked up. Otherwise I got nothing. If the correct stuff is coming from RDJ to the encoder then showing correctly then RDJ is not your issue. I think your server is. Sorry man that is all I got. :-[
On RN board someone said: and Include the File in Encoder (Winamp DSP-RadioDJ Plugin/some encoder RadioDJ-Plugin) or include in Ext. Encoder. I'm not sure how to do this correctly. Not sure if it will fix the issue either but... b.u.t.t. ohhhh bother.....
include what file? I dont understand what file it is referring to.
:D Yeah, that's why I've been looking for someone who is using both RDJ and RN. Chaos Radio has his RN station in his signature here on RDJ forum so I thought I'd see if he had it figured out. He might not be using RDJ for RN. But I really need to. I know I can do so much with RDJ. RN is not serving me well from the programming side. I can't lock a playlist in for elements to air where I put them.... talking over intro to a song could end up with me talking over the wrong song or no song at all because they dropped it. If I can get a handle on the metadata issue I'll be cooking with gas! But until then :bash:
Quote from: joshuatree44 on April 02, 2015, 04:40:51 AM
include what file? I dont understand what file it is referring to.
c:/nowplaying.txt
try moving it into the encoder folder like it suggests. Just a thought. Give it what it is asking for. ::)
Radionomy forum -
While on "Live", my radio does not display the tracks/Artists played, is that normal?
That means that you don't correctly send the metadata of your songs from your software, and more precisely in the "Artist" and "Title" fields.
With Winamp, default settings are normally alright.
It should be noted that, if you use an external metadata generator attached to your software, "StreamTitre" software doesn't work properly. You should rather use "Update Title".
Warning , if you do not send this information correctly, your direct access to the "Live" function may be deactivated. Indeed, this information is essential for us to respect royalties & copyright rules.
I have no access to winamp in RDJ. I've tried to load DSP Plugin but, I'm sure that I've done something wrong. Anyone able to help me straighten this mess out?
I would certainly appreciate it. I'm ready to rock and roll on my station. I have to get past these technical issues. Please and thanks.
Jim Bickel
OK in the Playing info plugin there is a file export tab. It should be sending your meta data to a file. That file is prob what the encoder is looking for. That is what I have to use or anyone has to use to get meta data out to an encoder. mine is set to F:\RadioDJ\now_playing.txt check that and see if it is sending.
then use what ever encoder to get meta data from that file and I think it will solve your issue.
Quote from: Bic8760 on April 02, 2015, 04:45:32 AM
c:/nowplaying.txt
I think this is what is throwing you off.
You don't need that file. That file is only necessary if you are using an
external encoder like A******t Standalone, Edcast, or B.U.T.T.
The encoder plugin (http://www.radiodj.ro/community/index.php?topic=6771.0) does this for you automatically if set up with the correct information I referred to in my previous post. Step by step instructions on how to set up the encoder plugin are here (http://www.some%20encoder.com/?p=139).
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- Now we go to the Server details tab. Server type:
* choose Shoutcast V1.
* Server IP: Type the IP server adress (info in the RMO)
* Port: Type the port number (info in the RMO)
* Password: Type the Live-password (When you create your radio this one is the same as the RMO password)
In to save the day. Thanks Snow. I figured it has to be something easy somewhere. I was racking my brain over and over. :angel:
So do I disable the now playing plugin? I've disabled everything inside of it that I can. Saved. Now rebuilding encoder. Shutting down system. Reloading. Trying again.
Thanks you guys. Hope it works.
If you still have issues, set up a local Shoutcast server and stream to it then check it in your browser (i.e. http://localhost:8000). If you see metadata, the problem is at Radionomy. If not, you have a local configuration issue. Simple as that.
J-
I'll try and figure that out after a couple of hours of sleep. Thanks for your help here. I really do appreciate it. I don't know how to set up a local host. I'm pretty sure if I did I'd probably be able to figure out the other end. :-[ Just the same, I'll try. Thanks. I think I need to start from scratch. But, I can't delete RDJ. I can re install but it pretty much sets up everything where I have it now. I have no idea if I have plugins in the right spot or the wrong plugins in the wrong spot. They could be conflicting. I'm afraid that if I blow everything up I'm going to have trouble getting it back in with the database. That took forever to get it working. Self teaching. Trying to follow instructions on forums but it's not always as simple as it looks. Thanks. We'll see what the new day brings.
;)
Sorry I was away for a few days, looks like the regulars have got the issue covered. I don't use the Radionomy API it show the current live song from my encoder. Sorry I can not help out.... :'(
Yeah, I've still got nothing. Something isn't set up right. Not sure what I did or what I need to do to fix it. I'll keep slugging it out I guess. Not having any luck.
Maybe starting from a blank slate might help. Just to make sure you did not accidentally skip a step. I had to do that here when the darn VAC from TLS would not uninstall. So I had to do a system Restore. Then I had to go back and delete a bunch of stuff and redo my databases. But that helped me troubleshoot some of the issues I was having. So give that a try and see what happens.
Yes, I think that's where I'm heading with all of this. Hopefully, that will do the trick. Thanks for all your help gang. I do appreciate it.
Well, I did a complete re-install. Not just RadioDJ but I reset my computer to factory settings, reloaded db and re-installed RadioDJ. Imported directories, set up new rotations and events. Installed some encoder. Set it up. Ran it and still nothing but audio. So, it's back to the drawing board.