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Title: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 09, 2016, 12:23:05 AM
I'm sure this was already written in the forum, but I couldn't find it, so I'm sorry. I discovered somewhere here in the forum this link to broadcast Bbc news on an hourly base: http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/96mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3. I asked the Bbc World Service if it's legal to rebroadcast from a web radio their streaming. I got a phone call appointment with them and the answer is: NO, you can't use it. Any web radio or fm radio station is not allowed to broadcast it. They provide that link only for private listening on your own pc. By the way they do provide a service to web and fm radio station which lasts no more than one minute also with a music bed. It can be broadcasted every hour but it costs 100 pounds per month. Besides they can't sell it to private user, you need to sign a contract with them and you need to be a society to get the invoice. Hope this help, but beware they can check if you are using it.
So I gave up this project at the moment and I'm looking for free news streaming, better if they last not more than 2 minutes. You are welcome :)
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Capt_Fuzzy on February 09, 2016, 12:59:29 AM
Yeah, this was discussed in another thread and the author got the same reply, a big, fat 'NO' as well...

I get mine from NPR News (National Public Radio News) and they don't have the same "qualms" about their news being "rebroadcast" so long as it is left in it's entirety.
They have files as short as 2 minutes (I think, I use the 5 min update every hour.), up to a full hour (if ya really want to go that route), they cover "world news" but it's a US based agency so I don't know if that will help any...
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 09, 2016, 01:11:12 AM
Yes Capt, I think I have listened to yours, but it was a bit too long (five minutes) and too much US oriented, maybe the 2 minutes version you are talking about, better suits my needs. I will have a look. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 09, 2016, 07:12:50 PM
Hi Capt_Fuzzy, I looked around but couldn't find the 2 minutes news on NPR site. Could you please link it, if you have?
Thanks
 
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: ncborges on February 09, 2016, 07:37:53 PM
BBc have the hourly bulletins as skynews have the same.
Two audio quality are offered:
Standard quality:
http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/32mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3 (http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/32mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3)

High quality:
http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/96mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3 (http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/96mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3)

The url you can find the links and terms is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17434527 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17434527)

As told above, Sky offers simmilar bulletin that  you can find at: http://news.sky.com/info/radio (http://news.sky.com/info/radio)

The link for the Sky news update bulletin is:
http://video.news.sky.com/snr/news/snrnews.mp3 (http://video.news.sky.com/snr/news/snrnews.mp3)

They are about five minutes as well. Hope it helps you
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Capt_Fuzzy on February 09, 2016, 08:20:33 PM
Hi Capt_Fuzzy, I looked around but couldn't find the 2 minutes news on NPR site. Could you please link it, if you have?
Thanks
I said that "I thought" they had a 2 minute version, after looking around, the shortest is the 5 minute version.., sorry if my answer was misleading...  :(
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 09, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
I said that "I thought" they had a 2 minute version, after looking around, the shortest is the 5 minute version.., sorry if my answer was misleading...  :(

Hi Capt, you never give me satisfaction  :'(

@ncborges:
Didn't you read what I wrote starting my post about Bbc news bulletin? Anyway the Sky bulletin is pretty good and it lasts 2 minutes. Exactly what I was looking for, but again, is it legal to rebroadcast? I remember what Capt_Fuzzy wrote in another post, saying: you can ask them and maybe they can even don't answer as many not commercial radio and web radio use it. Now I will write them and wait for the answer...
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: stevec on February 10, 2016, 01:45:10 AM
For $15 a month you could subscribe to Feature Story News. http://featurestorynews.com/

They have the option of 5 Minute, 3 Minute or 30 second news updates to download. We have been taking that service for 4 years now.
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: ncborges on February 10, 2016, 11:39:39 PM

@ncborges:
Didn't you read what I wrote starting my post about Bbc news bulletin? Anyway the Sky bulletin is pretty good and it lasts 2 minutes. Exactly what I was looking for, but again, is it legal to rebroadcast? I remember what Capt_Fuzzy wrote in another post, saying: you can ask them and maybe they can even don't answer as many not commercial radio and web radio use it. Now I will write them and wait for the answer...

If legal I do not know, but I've been usng for long time with no troubles.. :D
Is there is public and I think is not problem if you're not doing money, but worth a try. Send an email en keep your copies. I don't think you'll get an answer as said ou Captain, but at least, you've tried.
regards
Newton
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 11, 2016, 12:04:19 AM
If legal I do not know, but I've been usng for long time with no troubles.. :D
Is there is public and I think is not problem if you're not doing money, but worth a try. Send an email en keep your copies. I don't think you'll get an answer as said ou Captain, but at least, you've tried.
regards
Newton
Yes, one can try, but in the end they could fine you for using material under copyright. In that case what should you do? You'll have to pay, and how much ? Who knows? I repeat: actually I'm paying music licence in my country because I don't want to be fined, even if I think it'is a legal robbery for an amatorial web radio who doesn't broadcast ads...  >:D Should I risk for a news feed? I don't know!
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Major Armstrong on February 11, 2016, 12:47:58 AM
I run TruNews hourly 1-minute updates.  Free to Part 15 and streaming stations.

With a caveat... I was an affiliate of Leo Ashcraft's Mutual Radio News.  He quickly lost interest, and TruNews took over supplying content to his affiliates, so I was grandfathered in.  I've never seen anything on the TruNews website saying they accept free subscribers, but it would be worth dropping them an inquiry.

https://www.trunews.com/contact/ (https://www.trunews.com/contact/)


Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 11, 2016, 01:12:51 AM
Thanks Major,
I have sent a request as soon as I have seen your post. I'll let you know what they answer  :) 
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: ncborges on February 11, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
If you still having interests o BBC material,;

BBC News website - Request to reproduce material

Any requests to use material from BBC News webpages should be submitted to the BBC News Website Permissions Desk via the contact details below;

Email: newswebsitepermissions@bbc.co.uk
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Major Armstrong on February 11, 2016, 11:56:49 PM
Thanks Major,
I have sent a request as soon as I have seen your post. I'll let you know what they answer  :)

You're very welcome.  Yes, please let us know what they say.  I've been hesitant to recommend them, since I don't know what their policy is, if any.
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: djslim1 on February 13, 2016, 01:28:39 AM
Could someone guide me in the right direction to get some news for my station and who to set it up to play in radio DJ?

Thanks, I'm new at this whole thing so help would be welcome in a big way

Slim
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 13, 2016, 02:34:26 AM
You're very welcome.  Yes, please let us know what they say.  I've been hesitant to recommend them, since I don't know what their policy is, if any.

Still no news from TruNews.

I got a reply from Sky News and they also say a big NO. That's what they say:

"Sky News invests heavily in its news coverage to ensure our customers are given the best possible service. International stations which use our bulletins all pay a license fee and therefore I cannot allow you to use this content free of charge.
I respectfully request that you refrain from using the bulletin."

@djslim, sorry at the moment we are still searcing for a good and free service... keep reading

Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Major Armstrong on February 13, 2016, 04:34:07 PM
Still no news from TruNews.

I must apologize, Plauri.  My station has actually been off the air while I'm building a new studio, so I was completely unaware that, sometime in the past few weeks, TruNews has discontinued ALL of its newscasts!  However, we may have a reprieve.  I just received this from the former Mutual Radio News founder, Leo Ashcraft...

In September 2015 - Mutual Radio News was sold to TruNews from Rick Wiles. Mr. Wiles decided to end both Trunews and Mutual Radio News. While its still unclear why this decision was made, it has left over 200 radio affiliates stranded for news.

I founded Mutual Radio News in early 2015. It grew quickly, but I had too many irons in the fire and was experience health problems related to my previous heart attacks at the end of 2014. I was unable to find reliable help and still continue the high standard I require. Trunews, founded in 1999 with over 100 existing affiliates seemed to be the perfect option for continuing the Mutual Radio News service. Unfortunately, for whatever reason Wiles ran Mutual radio news for three months and suddenly pulled the plug on both services.

Now things have been changing rapidly. Since leaving Art Bell's program shortly before he quit himself, I have been developing a long form talk radio network which has been successful. This network has developed into an opportunity to restart the news service. Jeremy Scott and his spouse are moving to Texas at the end of February. He currently hosts the main Show - Dark Thirty Radio. He brings many years of experience with him from KXL in portland and will also head the news service. In addition his connections from the Portland radio market will assist him with producing the daily news service.

Sometime in early March, the news service will return! The service will provide the 1,3 and five minute commercial and non-commercial versions as before. There will be several voices on these casts, including mine.

At this point - I am reaching out to you as a former affiliate in hopes you will consider using the service. Your response will help us gauge steps we need to take to get this going again and move closer to an official launch date.

If you still have the download service installed - leave it in place. You will likely need to make no changes once we are back in operation!

I will update you soon on our progress. And thank you for your support!


So, the uncertainty of a TruNews affiliate policy has been replaced with the original MRN service!  This is a promising development.  In just a few weeks, it seems you WILL be able to become an affiliate!

You can follow the progress here:
Mutual Radio News on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/MutualRadioNews/)

 :cool:

Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 14, 2016, 12:27:13 AM
Hi Major Armstrong, you don't have to apologize. I really appreciated your interest. It's a pity how thing are going on, but as there is written, maybe in one month the service could be back. I will wait  :)
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: tipexfm on February 15, 2016, 11:41:57 PM
What about Euronews Radio? Has anyone find an international free newsfeed service ?
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on February 26, 2016, 01:54:21 PM
Yeah, this was discussed in another thread and the author got the same reply, a big, fat 'NO' as well...

I get mine from NPR News (National Public Radio News) and they don't have the same "qualms" about their news being "rebroadcast" so long as it is left in it's entirety.
They have files as short as 2 minutes (I think, I use the 5 min update every hour.), up to a full hour (if ya really want to go that route), they cover "world news" but it's a US based agency so I don't know if that will help any...

Hi Capt, where did you find these info about their rebroadcast and the lenght of the news? I just found the 5 minutes news
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Capt_Fuzzy on February 27, 2016, 04:48:00 AM
Hi Capt, where did you find these info about their rebroadcast and the lenght of the news? I just found the 5 minutes news
As I'd mentioned earlier, after the initial post, they used to have a 2 minute newscast.
The shortest now is the 5 minute newscast, sorry for the confusion...  ;D
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: Major Armstrong on April 21, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
Just to update my post above regarding the Mutual News Service...

Unfortunately, it seems Mr. Ashcraft can't decide what he wants to be when he grows up.  He did re-start his Mutual news service, only to again pull the plug after a couple of months, leaving affiliates with no news (most of them commercial stations playing bartered spots).  He immediately followed this venture with a "weather service," to record localized forecasts.  Mr. Ashcraft then got tired of that after a couple of months and quit, again, leaving his paid affiliates high and dry. 

Now, he's promoting himself as a voiceover service. 

Noticing the pattern, I told him we'd be happy to use him for liners.... if we could rely on him BEING there for any length of time.  He was batting 000.  Instead of explaining himself, he private messaged me with profanity. 

Fortunately, I have since learned there are real (established) networks out there, with content (including news) for Part 15 stations. 

Verified FREE for Part 15 use (http://part15lab.blogspot.com/2016/02/free-programing-sources-for-part-15.html)

Some suppliers may require you to sign-up and/or sign affidavits, but it's FREE and you don't have to worry about them going away.

Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on April 22, 2017, 12:48:00 AM
Yes Major in the end I opted for VOA news. They broadcast a 5 and 2 minute headlines, I have choosen the last one. 5 minutes are really too much to me, and I must say they are a bit too much focused on Trump, but it's free and they are reliable. I had to sign up some papers with them and after a week of writing mails I could start broadcasting their news. Not bad after all.     
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: FreerunMedia on April 22, 2017, 10:05:23 AM
BBc have the hourly bulletins as skynews have the same.
Two audio quality are offered:
Standard quality:
http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/32mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3 (http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/32mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3)

High quality:
http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/96mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3 (http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/css/96mp3/latest/bbcnewssummary.mp3)

The url you can find the links and terms is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17434527 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17434527)

As told above, Sky offers simmilar bulletin that  you can find at: http://news.sky.com/info/radio (http://news.sky.com/info/radio)

The link for the Sky news update bulletin is:
http://video.news.sky.com/snr/news/snrnews.mp3 (http://video.news.sky.com/snr/news/snrnews.mp3)

They are about five minutes as well. Hope it helps you

Correct me if i'm wrong but the topic stated allready "Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden". Now i see links in here that are from the BBC and even Sky News. Do i need to say that this is still a big "NO" ?  :hihi:
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: RFU on April 22, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Yes Major in the end I opted for VOA news. They broadcast a 5 and 2 minute headlines, I have choosen the last one. 5 minutes are really too much to me, and I must say they are a bit too much focused on Trump, but it's free and they are reliable. I had to sign up some papers with them and after a week of writing mails I could start broadcasting their news. Not bad after all.   

But what's going to happen to VOA and NPL now that "Agent Orange" has cut all funding?

I was considering switching to one of them but now I'm stuck with a "wait and see" attitude
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: FreerunMedia on April 22, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
If you want to have news on your station, search for a cheap solution ( DUH ) but keep in mind that there is allways a catch. I use World News Company and they provider free news in dutch. The catch, they call out the website of WNC and you only have 3 messages, updated 3 times a day without the weekends.

Allmost all the news providers cost money. The only reason, it takes a lot of time to setup the news and select what is realy important. What builds up the cost is how much you want. More messages with weather and during the weekends, will cost a lot, up to 300 to 700 euro a month!

Still want news with no costs? Decide if you realy need the news. If you don't realy need it, let it go. Still want it? Try reading it yourself. Yes it is a lot of work but if you only record an hour a day with multiple messages as seperate tracks, you can create the news that is different every hour.
Title: Re: Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden
Post by: plauri on April 22, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but the topic stated allready "Streaming news from Bbc: forbidden". Now i see links in here that are from the BBC and even Sky News. Do i need to say that this is still a big "NO" ?  :hihi:

I investigated and asked them. I'll tell you what: the streaming news link you see from Bbc and Sky news are ONLY for personal use, that is on your own pc at home. You are not allowed to rebroadcast them (they told me, by mail (Sky) and by phone (Bbc)), but if you can afford 5000/year pounds + Vat for Sky news (2 minutes lenght updated every hour) and "only" 1200/year pounds + Vat for Bbc news (1 minute lenght updated every hour) than you can use their headlines.