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Mixer Help Please

Started by RFU, October 20, 2018, 03:28:50 PM

RFU

RadioDJ is not using the soundcard at all. The stream goes from RadioDJ to breakaway Pipeline to SE Caster, and finally, to the internet. There is no signal at all that goes to or from the soundcard.

It seems to me that has to be fixed before I worry about getting it to the mixer or to the internet
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stevewa

ok, in radiodj, options, soundcards...
change main outout to

Speakers, C Media PCI

save, retart radiodj

play music, and get the audio signal  from computer soundcard green port out, into mixer channel, and thru your monitoring spkrs, and make sure that part works, and sounds good.

and take photos of your cable path from computer, to mixer and mixer settings.

RFU

Quote from: stevewa on October 29, 2018, 02:01:25 PM
ok, in radiodj, options, soundcards...
change main outout to

Speakers, C Media PCI

save, retart radiodj

play music, and get the audio signal  from computer soundcard green port out, into mixer channel, and thru your monitoring spkrs, and make sure that part works, and sounds good.

Did it, and it works. Cable from speaker 1 to Line In 5/6

Cable Main out to Line In (black on sound card) does not work

I've tried every setting in Windows, every setting in RadioDJ, and every setting in SE Caster

If you can hear anything, it's massively distorted when it's broadcasted. All volume controls in Windows for the devices is set between 25 and 33.

But the phones plugged into the mixer sound good

The only way I can get RadioDJ to broadcast clearly is through Breakaway Pipeline, which cuts the sound card and the mixer out completely and goes directly from RadioDJ to SE Caster
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RFU

Sorry, I meant to say BLUE. It's marked as Line in
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RFU

massively distorted when it's broadcasted as in, so loud it's all distorted

At the moment, Breakaway Pipeline is the only thing that is keeping me on the air.

Right now nothing is going to the mixer. When I was playing with it earlier, I had speaker 1 on the soundcard plugged into Line In 5/6 on the mixer. And using the phones plugged into the mixer it sounded great.

I think I need to figure out what hardware has to be set to default in Windows, then use the same settings in RadioDJ and SE Caster
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RFU

I'm going to leave this until tomorrow.

I'm swapping hard drives with a more powerful computer with more RAM and a new soundcard tomorrow afternoon
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RFU

So, I got the signal going out of the soundcard, into the mixer, and back to the soundcard, and SE Caster without breakaway pipeline.

But there are still 2 problems

1) Anything I try to listen to on the broadcast computer (i.e. in a browser) still broadcasts and no sound can be heard through the headphones on that computer

2) when I test either of the mics plugged into the mixer I have to crank the volume almost to full on the mixer to hear the voice, and it sounds terrible. Very tinny and echoy
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PROducer

Quote from: RFU on October 31, 2018, 04:21:38 PM
So, I got the signal going out of the soundcard, into the mixer, and back to the soundcard, and SE Caster without breakaway pipeline.

But there are still 2 problems

1) Anything I try to listen to on the broadcast computer (i.e. in a browser) still broadcasts and no sound can be heard through the headphones on that computer
Why aren't you using the headphones with the mixer?
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2) when I test either of the mics plugged into the mixer I have to crank the volume almost to full on the mixer to hear the voice, and it sounds terrible. Very tinny and echoy
You said you are using Condenser mics, right?  You need to give them Phantom Power.  Make sure that's turned on.

stevewa

Quote from: RFU on October 31, 2018, 04:21:38 PM
1) Anything I try to listen to on the broadcast computer (i.e. in a browser) still broadcasts and no sound can be heard through the headphones on that computer

are you saying, "on the computer that is running RadioDJ, if I open a web browser to YouTube, and play a video, I can hear the audio from that video being sent to my encoder"?

then you need to adjust the windwos sound, playback, system sounds, and send it to a different audio soundcard, so sounds from youtube and web browsers do not interfere with the radiodj output.

where are the headphones plugged into on that computer? is there a front panel jack for headphones?
or are you plugging them into the soundcard green port "Speaker1" ?

try to put only 1 issue in 1 sentence.
try to add as many details as possible so we don't have to guess.

RFU

Quote from: PROducer on October 31, 2018, 05:31:07 PM
Why aren't you using the headphones with the mixer?

I am

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You said you are using Condenser mics, right?  You need to give them Phantom Power.  Make sure that's turned on.

It is
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RFU

Quote from: stevewa on October 31, 2018, 06:32:10 PM
are you saying, "on the computer that is running RadioDJ, if I open a web browser to YouTube, and play a video, I can hear the audio from that video being sent to my encoder"?

Yes, anything that plays on the broadcast computer, whether it's through RadioDJ or through a browser ends up going to the encoder and broadcasted

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then you need to adjust the windwos sound, playback, system sounds, and send it to a different audio soundcard, so sounds from youtube and web browsers do not interfere with the radiodj output.

There is no way to do that in Windows. You cannot say, send this audio here and that audio there. If there is a way, please tell me how  :(

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where are the headphones plugged into on that computer? is there a front panel jack for headphones?

I have one of those little USB sound cards (see first page of this thread) and I had the headphones plugged in there. Originally I used one computer for everything, broadcast and production. And browser sound, AIMP sound etc went to the headphones. Now I can't get it to do that.

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or are you plugging them into the soundcard green port "Speaker1" ?

No. they're plugged into the little USB sound card at the front. Speaker1 on the installed sound card goes to the mixer line in 5/6. Main out from the mixer goes to line in on the soundcard

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stevewa

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then in windows, you set the usb sound device (not a card, obviously) as the default playback device, so the regular computer and broswer sounds go to that device.

then radiodj soundcard settings use the internal sound card for playback main output, but you can set the radiodj cue output to use the usb audio device, so you can hear cues thru your headphones.

as for the microphones, did you unwrap them from the packaging plastic? lol  :D

when you use the microphones with your mixer, does the led sound level meters show a high volume signal from the microphone when you speak into it? or if there is barely any signal level, it could be a bad cable between the mic and the board, or damage to the board's electronics, etc...

can you record a video of your testing with the microphone, showing where it is plugged in, the knob settings on the mixer, the led output meters, and the resulting sound quality, and then upload the video to youtube?

RFU

Well that fixed the broadcast computer problem, thanks

In RadioDJ I have the "input sound card" set to "Line In(C-Media audio device). Is that correct or should it be "Stereo Mix (C-Media Audio Device)?
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stevewa

good, glad to help.

RDJ, input sound card, should be set to the device that you use to bring audio "into" RadioDJ.

do you want to bring audio into RDJ, or do you want to bring audio into the computer for use by the encoder, to send out to the internet for your stream? if for stream, maybe you want to bring the audio from the mixer into the usb device, and set your encoder to use that usb device as the source...

RFU

Audio (songs) should go from RadioDJ to the mixer
Voice added to the mixer
and the Audio (songs) with the mixer (voice) sent to the encoder

So, I guess, looking at it that way, the RadioDJ input sound card should be set to "no input sound card available" because it doesn't loop back to RadioDJ?
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