Standalone encoder issues - same issue with all?

[swadarshan]

HI
I have been trying so many things in the past few days, searched this site as well a lot - many useful information I find here!
I was trying first with an older version but couldn't manage to get it work. Now finally got the latest version 2 up and been able to import all music into it (huge change for previous trials). [Figured maybe the reason is that win10 is the happier with this? - the whole need for change was urging since a windows 10 update was stopping SAMBC functioning]
Now I see encoder is being a bit of an issue for RDJ, I got to understand why standalone is preferable and I do also prefer the idea of it.
I tried first with the MBRecaster, then SE Caster, and now as latest tried BUTT (didn't really want to, as we use the PC sometimes for other things too), none I've been able to set to begin with.
I am starting to guess there might be the same reason for all not working, but just cannot think of what?
Basically couldn't even click in MBRecaster or SE Caster to set; and could set server in BUTT, but couldn't find any soundcard or any device to choose, and also didn't give the option of '41000Hz' only gave many other nonsense numbers instead.
Was thinking to rather buy the one said to be the most stable and not too expensive - just afraid it probably wouldn't work for the same reason as the others?
Can anyone give please any advice what to do?
Not sure what else information I should give here?
I am thinking if I need to check again to wipe out all unnecessary files of previous non-working encoders? (but they may could work?)
We had Winamp running to quickly replace the broke down SAMBC, but that is giving lots of conjunction in the broadcasting.
For example I figured I couldn't import directory to RDJ until Winamp wasn't closed totally. I don't understand why, it's not logical to me, but this worked finally.
These are might too obvious for someone expert, sorry if I ask silly questions.
Help please

[ghm72]

If the free standalone encoders aren't working/picking up soundcards then I'd suggest buying software such as Radiocaster that gives you the right soundcard options it costs $49.95 but the investment will be worth it I've heard some good things about it.

https://www.djsoft.net/enu/radiocaster_details.htm

[neutralhills]

swadarshan:

Please see my reply to another user in this thread:

http://www.radiodj.ro/community/index.php?topic=10671.msg61305#msg61305

It has a solution that will get you up and running with a standalone encoder and works on computers that only have a single sound card.

[swadarshan]

swadarshan:

Please see my reply to another user in this thread:

http://www.radiodj.ro/community/index.php?topic=10671.msg61305#msg61305

It has a solution that will get you up and running with a standalone encoder and works on computers that only have a single sound card.

Thanks. I hardly understand.
Is the part you think would work for me this?:

"Configuration:
--------------
With butt 0.1.13 several new features regarding this topic have been
introduced.

The command line option -c <path_to_file> allows you to define anew
standard configuration path. This makes it possible to have multiple
instances with different configurations running. In case the file does
not exist, butt will create a default file."

I didn't see anything else could be related (wouldn't even think if this was to be honest - saw this thread earlier)
I will try to find 0.1.13 version, as in the 0.1.16 we have, I cannot find anything like that at all.

Sorry if I misunderstood.

[edit:] maybe you meant the other part for me?:

   " Download and install Voicemeeter Banana
    Install Virtual Audio Cables A/B to go along with.
    Set output of RDJ as Virtual Cable A
    Make Virtual Cable A an input in VM Banana
    Set the output from Voicemeter Banana as the input in the B.U.T.T. encoder (free)
    Set up your Shoutcast/Icecast info in B.U.T.T. and you're back streaming"

Sorry but I thought this is to use a completely different software which I wasn't about to do to begin with.
is this other software perhaps to replace to option as cannot find soundcard?

Sorry that I don't get it.

#DJ Garybaldy
maybe will rather pay for the stable software, just was afraid that it won't work for the same reason the others don't, and my other half who makes this whole radio is tied in his bed as disabled, so we don't really have extra cash to throw out the window.

Thank you all for replies.

[neutralhills]

Sorry but I thought this is to use a completely different software which I wasn't about to do to begin with.
is this other software perhaps to replace to option as cannot find soundcard?

Just the second part of the post was for you. This is separate software that can be used to route sound to an encoder application and work around you only having one soundcard.

[ghm72]

maybe will rather pay for the stable software, just was afraid that it won't work for the same reason the others don't, and my other half who makes this whole radio is tied in his bed as disabled, so we don't really have extra cash to throw out the window.

I've heard nothing but good things about Radiocaster it has better detection for soundcards than other stand alone encoders it should pick up the audio from your speakers at least the version I've installed to test does.

The free encoders sometimes have limitations

[swadarshan]

Thank you.
Just noticed the answers.
Was so desperate the time I was writing, in the end we figured some settings nobody ever told us before on winamp, so we are still running the radio from there as the only more-or-less working option.

I understand if a better software costs and that is not a problem, more of an issue here that programs that were fine and good, suddenly stopped working due to Win10 update, and it's impossible to figure all the unwanted changes happened, only found several dll files moved from active to deactivated by so-clever windows.
So there is a doubt that even something we pay for, will still not work, as the main problem was not fixed. I don't believe that it's normal that all of a sudden after a Win10 update so many softwares just stop working. That is not normal.

But I understand this probably goes beyond the purpose of this site (hence I was posting in a different sub category in the first place, as I understand the newest RDJ best works on Win10, and I was hoping that if people read my post, who may also came across with such issues with Win10 updates, do have some solutions perhaps)
Now we can only look as if there were only encoder issues, not Win10 and dll and whatsoever, so I wasn't even looking for answers here anymore, been so busy trying to keep up the station running.

We still hope to make RDJ to work somehow, as it really looks a wonderful software, and it's only missing an encoder now to broadcast with it.
but we are still facing issues with winamp too and so the main problem wasn't found wasn't solved yet.

[neutralhills]

We still hope to make RDJ to work somehow, as it really looks a wonderful software, and it's only missing an encoder now to broadcast with it.

I'm not understanding what the issue is with using MB Recaster or BUTT? I had over 3 months of uptime on both RadioDJ and BUTT until a power bump a couple of weeks back combined with a bad battery in my UPS.

[country101]

Sound Empire Caster that Gary has on his downloads is wonderful. Thanks Gary for posting that. I love it so far. I like you can use the DSP plugins in it as well so I dont have to dump my Processor plugin and settings. The only thing it does not like is OPUS I see but that is a free encoder. take what you get I guess. Unless Gary you have an idea on a work around?

[Vanlen]

Sound Empire Caster that Gary has on his downloads is wonderful. Thanks Gary for posting that.

I second that one too for Gary sharing for all.

Switched from Butt 1.15 (Which is good too) but like the look and feel of SE Caster.
Cheers

UPDATE: Apparently there is now 01.16 version of BUTT Broadcast Utility Tool. I'll have to give that one a shot too.
Nice to have a few good options out there.

[swadarshan]

I'm not understanding what the issue is with using MB Recaster or BUTT? I had over 3 months of uptime on both RadioDJ and BUTT until a power bump a couple of weeks back combined with a bad battery in my UPS.

Perhaps that they just don't do the job?
As I said quite many times earlier - it's rather a WINDOWS 10 UPDATE issue - which we don't understand. Everything kept working till a certain update - when all stopped.

I was posting this initially to a different category (not to utilities, but there where are discussions of new software for Win10), as I was trying to find the answer for the actual problem... but the post was moved to here, as if it was a different problem.

Noone actually seemed to get me, perhaps it's my bad English...

It's the NEW WIN10 issue. Windows keeps wanting to know better.. that's all. I have found some of the necessary .dll files in the 'old' folder of Windows after the update, and after that things were stopping to work. But placing back them didn't help, and restoring windows to elder version didn't help either, as it was updating again soon.

This was the same reason, why I didn't feel to pay for the most stable software, until the actual problem wasn't solved.

I understand if this forum is not about windows 10 - I was just hoping that someone else may also have come across the same issue, as the updates are there in win10, no matter you want it or not.

Oh and by the way, BUTT would also only be a temporary solution as we use the PC for other things too.

We had to act quite urgently to get the radio going, so we now have a different software that runs finally neatly.

[neutralhills]

Both BUTT and MB Recaster are working fine for me on four different Windows 10 systems that are completely up to date. I strongly doubt this is a Windows issue. That being said, please check your Windows event logs. Are there any noteworthy errors showing up? As well, what antivirus are you running? An AV program generating false positives can result in the wrong files being quarantined and your software breaking.

Hope this helps.