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When will third-party plugins return?
« on: March 07, 2018, 12:26:57 AM »
I realize that v1.8 plugins are not compatible with v2, however we use a lot of them to normalize our audio output, and make the software work perfectly for us. We want to upgrade to v2, but can not do without the use of third party plugins like DSP and VST. Is there planned support for these plugins? Or will there be no third party plugins?

I see lots of mention that 1.8 plugins are not supported, but absolutely no mention on if DSP and VST will return in v2.

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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 07:34:50 AM »
Use MB Recaster software in the mean time, it supports DSP and works well. Not sure about VST. Frankly I only use 1 DSP to normalize my audio, search hitzconnect and give it a listen and if it sounds good to you. I'll show you how to do it.
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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 09:51:36 AM »
While I appreciate the response. This does not answer the question. Will third party plugins return to RadioDJ?

In my own situtation, for streaming we use a program called "RadioCaster", which does allow DSP and VST, however DSP and VST in RadioDJ allowed for the normalization of the audio coming from the PC, which in a larger setup (mixer, multiple inputs, audio routing, etc), this creates a problem as the output from the Automation system can't be set to a specific output level without additional software, and uses the actual level of the file. All of our other systems either have a volume control that allows us to control the level at which the feed or input is played, except v2 of RadioDJ.

Unfortunately, not all MP3's are created equally, meaning a lot of stations (including my own), have files where the volume differs, which creates an uneven and poor sounding station. Unless someone else has an solution that doesn't involve processing each file independently with a normalization software. I think DSP needs to be added back, as it's absence is a huge draw back of v2.

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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 09:58:57 AM »

Unfortunately, not all MP3's are created equally, meaning a lot of stations (including my own), have files where the volume differs, which creates an uneven and poor sounding station. Unless someone else has an solution that doesn't involve processing each file independently with a normalization software. I think DSP needs to be added back, as it's absence is a huge draw back of v2.

Re: Volume levels have you ever heard of mp3gain? https://djgarybaldy.co.uk/mp3gain/ I have all my library volume leveled and everything sounds great through RadioDJ I've used it for years now (It may take time to batch volume level all your library)

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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 10:01:47 AM »
Welcome. Give us a listen,  I don't seem to have any level issues going track to track, unless I misinterpreted what you're saying. Just trying to help you find another way.  http://stream.hitzconnect.com

As for your question, they don't seem to have any plans to bring it back, as a result most of us go to use external solutions. Lucky for us it's just one thing we go to do. 
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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 10:15:13 AM »
Re: Volume levels have you ever heard of mp3gain? https://djgarybaldy.co.uk/mp3gain/ I have all my library volume leveled and everything sounds great through RadioDJ I've used it for years now (It may take time to batch volume level all your library)

We have attempted to normalize in the past with mp3gain, I don't think that's a solution for us because of the way mp3 gain locks the files during processing, meaning RadioDJ can't use them, meaning they get disabled.

We have quite an extensive library of music for all of our stations, and this problem is across the board. Rather than taking our stations offline to normalize the audio, it would just be easier to use a plugin to normalize the output volume.

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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 10:18:05 AM »
hey don't seem to have any plans to bring it back, as a result most of us go to use external solutions.

That is extremely unfortunate. I've done several searches on these forums and no once have seen a response regarding DSP or third-party plugin support. Which is upsetting. It's like giving a kid a lollipop and then snatching it away. Sad really. Hopefully they will see it's importance and re-add it.

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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 10:22:18 AM »
That is extremely unfortunate. I've done several searches on these forums and no once have seen a response regarding DSP or third-party plugin support. Which is upsetting. It's like giving a kid a lollipop and then snatching it away. Sad really. Hopefully they will see it's importance and re-add it.

I agree, the way they're handling it is a bit immature to me. But I held my rights to complain since the software is free. I've seen a few posts however that highlighted they may put it a paid version, but I don't know what to believe. I know a paid version is coming though.
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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 10:24:25 AM »
Who knows what features Marius has planned for the upcoming paid version.... The DSP stacker plugin always was 3rd party i.e Not developed by Marius
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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 12:05:12 PM »
Yeah, that's sad. I tried v2 which is great for many new features, but for now I still have to use v1.8, cause new version doesn't support plugins.
I use plugin for streaming and dsp plugin for stereo tool. I am running 3 instances of radio dj and it would be uncomfortable to run also 3 instances for standalone encoders and stereo tools.
I also wanted to know - is there some principle problem to make dsp plugin for radio dj v2 or simply for now nobody updated their 3rd party plugins and after some time we can expect them to appear (as there was before when radio dj versions changed) ?

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Re: When will third-party plugins return?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2018, 12:17:48 PM »
I can understand your frustrations...  if you don't need to upgrade to v2 then stay with v1.8.2 (That still works amazingly well) until a DSP plugin gets coded by Marius etc...

I find the sound processing in RadioDJ is enough for me don't like over processed sound. Couldn't get on with Stereo tool at all.
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