A manual or automatic link for each element

[hugo1209]

Today, it's possible to program generally if you want a link of the following file in automatic, with the programmed chaining points, or manually, by pressing a key to read the next file. (with the Automatic or Assisted buttons)

What would be interesting is to be able to define what chaining we want in a general way (assisted, for example). But select for each title, if you want, to leave the chaining by default or put in automatic. This could be done in the current playlist but could be programmed when creating a playlist. This would allow, without touching the option Assisted or Automated, to have a stop or a chaining of the two files.

It would help a lot for a live animation! (sometimes we want to chain a jingle and a music but we do not necessarily want to enchainer everything ...) 

PS : Several professional software do it but also the software Play It Live, if you want an example...

[stevewa]

sorry i don't understand

can you give a step by step example of how you would like it to work?

[hugo1209]

sorry i don't understand

can you give a step by step example of how you would like it to work?

Sorry, I may not have expressed myself very well ...

Let's say we have these elements in the playlist:
- a music
- a jingle
- an advertisement 1
- an advertisement 2

Today, it's possible to program the software to play everything automatically (read all the files in succession, by chaining the music, the jingle and the commercials) or to read everything manually (by launching each file manually in clicking on Play).

What would be interesting is to be able to program in advance, in the playlist creator (and also in the current playlist), that you want to read only the music and that the software stops then (mode Assisted), to be able to speak between the music and the jingle for example.
By cons, what I want is that after launching the jingle in manual, I would like that at the end of the jingle, advertising 1 then the advertisement 2 and finally the advertisement 3 read in succession because I don't want to talk between each.

To make it simple, it would be necessary for each file, it is possible to set if we want to read the following file automatically after or if we have to mark a stop and wait for the user to click play to launch the next file.

For example, I have attached a screenshot. In this example, I wish I could program that the software plays "Berlin" and "Boney M" afterwards, automatically. By cons, I wish he stops reading after "Boney M" to let me run manually "Bonnie Tayler" and then "Chuck Berry"

Am I clearer now?

Thank you for your answer!

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[Calypso]

Sorry, I may not have expressed myself very well ...

Let's say we have these elements in the playlist:
- a music
- a jingle
- an advertisement 1
- an advertisement 2

Today, it's possible to program the software to play everything automatically (read all the files in succession, by chaining the music, the jingle and the commercials) or to read everything manually (by launching each file manually in clicking on Play).

What would be interesting is to be able to program in advance, in the playlist creator (and also in the current playlist), that you want to read only the music and that the software stops then (mode Assisted), to be able to speak between the music and the jingle for example.
By cons, what I want is that after launching the jingle in manual, I would like that at the end of the jingle, advertising 1 then the advertisement 2 and finally the advertisement 3 read in succession because I don't want to talk between each.

To make it simple, it would be necessary for each file, it is possible to set if we want to read the following file automatically after or if we have to mark a stop and wait for the user to click play to launch the next file.

For example, I have attached a screenshot. In this example, I wish I could program that the software plays "Berlin" and "Boney M" afterwards, automatically. By cons, I wish he stops reading after "Boney M" to let me run manually "Bonnie Tayler" and then "Chuck Berry"

Am I clearer now?

Thank you for your answer!

Can't you do this by creating a manual event that disables assisted mode, and attach it to a 0.1s "silence" file that you name something like "Disable Assisted" and program into your sequence?

[hugo1209]

It can be an idea, indeed. I did not think about it. However, this solution has two disadvantages:
- It overloads the playlist a bit with events that are added regularly
- It's necessary to reactivate each time the automated manually or insert 2 events by speak.
But for now, I can indeed manage like that! Thank you for the idea! 

[Calypso]

It can be an idea, indeed. I did not think about it. However, this solution has two disadvantages:
- It overloads the playlist a bit with events that are added regularly

True, but on the other side of it: you now see exactly where your "break" will be in the playlist.

- It's necessary to reactivate each time the automated manually or insert 2 events by speak.

Or you can use a "stop playing" command in the playlist. Then you'll only have to press the "play" button again.

[hugo1209]

True, but on the other side of it: you now see exactly where your "break" will be in the playlist.

It's true that it is necessary to know when the playlist stops.

Or you can use a "stop playing" command in the playlist. Then you'll only have to press the "play" button again.

It's true. This is the solution for less overloading the active playlist.

I thought it might have been a good idea, to take even less space and for it to be easier, to add a small option for that.
In the transmitted screen shot (Netia Radio Assist software), "Foo Fighters" is automatically read after "U2" (the red box symbol indicates this).
On the other hand, "Dinosaur Jr" will only be played after "Foo Fighters" if the technician presses on Play manually (the symbol framed in blue testifies).

In the software, simply double click on the symbol (box in blue or red on the screenshot) to change the reading mode. And I think it would be possible to add a symbol of this kind in RadioDJ to do the same thing. The software would only have to activate or deactivate the automatic mode according to the symbol.
It could be an easy idea to put in place and to add on a software already very complete and very powerful!

But as there is a way to get by tinkering, it's not an urgent option.

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[mdj]

- It's necessary to reactivate each time the automated manually or insert 2 events by speak.

You can do it with 1.

To set it up. . . 
Create an Event which disables Assisted, I call this Automation Go.


Create A Playlist with the above event as the only Item, call the playlist 'Automation Go'

Create an Event which Enables Assisted and Loads the Automation Go into the log.


Again, Create a Playlist with the above event as the only Item, call it Automation Stop.

So you only need to add 1 item to your playlist to stop the linking/seque/automation.

Here we are in Automation Mode. . . 


Still Automation Mode.


You can see below that the Item has change from Automation Stop to Automation Go
And we are in Assisted Mode.


Now back to Automated Mode.


I understand it would be nice to be able to choose for each item what it will do at the next trigger (I think LOG mode of the playlist is really suited to this), with a global full auto, auto/assist or full assist modes to override what those links do. And it would be nice if this was built in, so you could have a countdown clock to the next stop.

Mike!

[hugo1209]

Thanks Mike for these explanations!

Calypso's trick was good too (put an event to just stop reading). It avoids having to reactivate the Automated mode all the time.
I think everyone can get by with this system. But as you say, it could be interesting to add this function (why not by adding a time count). Especially since I don't think it's very complicated because the Automated or Assisted function already exists. It should simply be that the play of a sound can change this status.

It might be easier for the technician, less cumbersome in the playlist and faster to program (with a simple double click on the icon, as in Netia Radio Assist, for example).

Have a good day!

[mdj]

Sorry for coming back to this after so long, finally got around to creating this graphic to kinda explain how I would like to see it implemented.



I've added a button next to the Output button, let's call my button 'Link'.

Clicking on this button reveals addition button below, Items 18 and 19 in there normal state, Items 16 and 17 are in their clicked state (although you should only be able to see the additional buttons on one item at any one time)

Clicking on an option in the additional menu will set that option for that item and close the additional button menu. Likewise clicking the link button again will collapse the additional menu. Clicking the link button on any other item will also collapse the additional menu on any other item.

For most items (all except sweepers, see below), a green down arrow ("Next") will trigger the next item, a red square ("Stop") will not trigger the next item.

While in "Assist" Mode all items are set to "Stop" as you can see in item 19 (ie all items would be a red square).
They do however remember their "Automation" State when in "Assist" mode, as such item 18 is set to trigger the "Next" (green down arrow) item.
Move into "Assist" mode and this would change to "Stop", change back to "Automation" mode and this item would move back to "Next" type link.

Sweepers, are removed from individual items (there is nothing written above "No Voicetrack"), and can be dropped into the play list as their own item (as you can now), when clicking on the link icon, you get the options of, from left to right of the additional buttons, if my descriptions are confusing. ;

• Down then to the left arrow - Start with outro or butt to ending (Butt to ending if it can fit between the outro marker and the end marker, otherwise start at outro [start next item as soon as possible, but do not allow sweeper to go past intro marker])
• Up then to the left arrow - Start with next item (if space in intro allows, otherwise play before next item and butt to intro)
• Left Arrow to pipe - Butt to intro
• Lightning - Play as own item between last and next, the same as a down facing green arrow on an ordinary item
• Stop - Do not trigger next item (as per other items), plays as own item, triggered on next trigger of previous item

Hope this explanation makes sense.
Mike.

[Chip Douglas Mosley]

I think this is a GREAT idea! I run into times where a jingle that comes before a song category will run then the clock resets before the song plays. I've asked for years about a LINK function to prevent that from happening. I SECOND THIS!

[PresidentOfACPJ]

True, but on the other side of it: you now see exactly where your "break" will be in the playlist.

Or you can use a "stop playing" command in the playlist. Then you'll only have to press the "play" button again.

Why not to add a instrumental beat (soundtrack or ["trilha" in portuguese]) to speak over it? I probably havent understood that yet.