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same song repeats too often in playlist

Started by Journey, November 29, 2024, 10:12:49 PM

Journey

I have some songs and even the news spots at times seem to play too much in the playlist when RadioDJ is in automated. Is there a way to fix this?

plauri

Quote from: Journey on November 29, 2024, 10:12:49 PMI have some songs and even the news spots at times seem to play too much in the playlist when RadioDJ is in automated. Is there a way to fix this?
I suggest when you insert many new songs into the database to reset the counter(s). It's normal that if you use "least recently played" in a rotation, it repeats that song more often than others.
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Derek

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Following on from what Plauri said about Least Recently Played, if you use least times played it will also go overkill on new items as they've been played less than others.
Check your global settings as the rotation custom rules haven't been working on newer versions than v2.0.1.3

DJGaryBaldy

I've been using Random to load my tracks for ages and I don't hear repeats

I have a 2 day no repeat rule in place (2880 minutes)

I knew there was an issue with LTP AND LRP a few versions back so I experimented with just random and that gives me the track rotation I need

Try it you have nothing to lose
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Journey

Is Random for "playlist" or "rotation"? Not sure where to find that option. Im new to this software and presently just have all songs playing on playlist with "AutoDJ" and "Automated" both on unless we are live.

Derek

Quote from: Journey on December 01, 2024, 10:35:36 PMIs Random for "playlist" or "rotation"? Not sure where to find that option.
When adding items to a rotation, each item will have the Selection Mode which you can set using a drop down menu. On ours, it defaults to Least Recently Played unless you change it.

If you go into your existing rotation(s), you can see the Selection Mode stated and you can edit it to change it using a drop down menu. When saving the rotation after exiting or creating it, use the save icon at the top.

When you stated using AutoDJ on playlist, do you mean an automatically generated playlist from a rotation? I'm assuming that's what you meant.

Journey

it is an automatically generated playlist from the library. We had an FCC deadline to get the station on the air so I didnt have alot of time to learn the software. sooooo presently not using any rotations :o

plauri

Quote from: Journey on December 02, 2024, 12:02:32 AMit is an automatically generated playlist from the library. We had an FCC deadline to get the station on the air so I didnt have alot of time to learn the software. sooooo presently not using any rotations :o
I'm not used to playlists, I only use rotations which are fundamental in Radiodj, as others suggested, learn to use them and you will be satisfied.
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Derek

Quote from: plauri on December 02, 2024, 01:08:30 AMI'm not used to playlists, I only use rotations which are fundamental in Radiodj, as others suggested, learn to use them and you will be satisfied.
Totally agree plauri! We only use rotations to generate the output. When we tried generating playlists, we kept getting repeating tracks in the list, because the track had only been selected, not played when the next list was generated.

Ages ago there was a suggestion in the forum to include another column in the database that could mark a track as selected when generating playlists so that it wouldn't be picked again within the rules times, but I suspect it's just been lost in all the posts over time.

Journey - The normal way for AutoDJ is to use a rotation to populate the playlist area so I wonder if that's already being done? Go to Track Rotation in Settings(spanner) and have a look at what's listed in the default (if you're using the default in the main RadioDJ window). You can see there if Least Recently Played or anything else is set for your tracks.

Journey

Thank you all soo much! I def plan to use rotations soon! Does happen to know where the software saves Carts list (instant players)? I can always just never can find it when I search for it... ???

Kiwi

Look in the MySQL database, Two tables... carts and carts_list Click on the Data tab. I think this is what you are looking for...

krisi

Quote from: Derek on November 30, 2024, 05:24:33 PMFollowing on from what Plauri said about Least Recently Played, if you use least times played it will also go overkill on new items as they've been played less than others.
Check your global settings as the rotation custom rules haven't been working on newer versions than v2.0.1.3
I'm praying this to be fixed soon  :-\

JMac

One way to "scatter" new songs after import, to avoid all of them immediately being played (especially if you sort by Least Recently Played), is to randomize their play times. I run this code in my db after an import...you can also trigger it as a manual event in RDJ.

UPDATE songs
SET date_played = (SELECT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP - INTERVAL FLOOR(RAND() * 2 * 24 * 60 * 60) SECOND)
WHERE id_genre = [your #]
AND id_subcat = [your #]
AND count_played = 0
AND song_type = 0
AND enabled = 1

This will randomly generate Date Played times spread over the last two days. If you want to increase/decrease that variable, feel free to change the "2" in the SET code. I've added all the other conditions to ensure it's only altering times for new songs in a specific genre and subcat. Of course, backup your db before kickin' the tires on this.

I run this weekly to randomize all my imaging elements, too. Who doesn't dig a fresh sound?!
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