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elsilva0

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Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« on: November 13, 2014, 07:34:43 PM »
Im not sure where i had to post this topic, but, here it goes...

I dont know if it would be built by a plugin, well...

Today a friend searched in my website's requests for avril lavigne's song, he got surprised when he noticed only one music appeared, then i took a look and noticed the filename was written wrong, it was "AVRIEL LAVIGNE" of course it must be "AVRIL LAVIGNE" then my friend s asked me bout if the system doesn't fix it automatically or something like this. I told him it doesnt do it. Then I had an idea, and if radiodj could fix these songs with wrong filenames?

Everyone here s gonna say me "Mp3 Tag does it dude" i know, i have this tool but, its not true at all, ive attempted to fix , or better, to search and automatically insert the correct names by using mp3tag and i coudn't do, i use mp3 tag to get filename to filetag only this, first i use the "recase" tool to uppercase the filenames, then i open it with mp3tag to make the tags as the filenames.

Then i imagine radio dj in the future or a plugin could fix filenames this way... its an idea's example, it can be made in other way too...

If you have 7 songs for example, and all them is AVRIL LAVIGNE, 3 are AVRIEL LAVIGNE, as the most of them are AVRIL LAVIGNE, radiodj or plugin fix the 3 other to the same artist name of the most.

like...
Search results for artist shows 7 results with 12 letters each one,
and 3 results wth 13 letters each one,
rename [3 results]

If number of letters in 3 results (3 is less than 7) is different than number of letters in 7 results,
make the 3 results become the same filename as 7 results.

Please understand "results, or search results" as files imported in directory import process or track import process. its an example.

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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 08:50:47 PM »
For a couple of wrong names
 You can use the track manager.

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 11:28:01 PM »
first i use the "recase" tool to uppercase the filenames, then i open it with mp3tag to make the tags as the filenames.
As I already wrote in a reply on another thread, you don't have to use something like Recase because the re is a noption in Mp3tag for converting letter case of tags and rename files at the same time.
And if Mp3tag can't find meta info from sources, it is because it is using exact info provided. If you want a smarter tool for finding metadata for incorrectly tagged files, use MusicBrainz Picard.

Then i imagine radio dj in the future or a plugin could fix filenames this way... its an idea's example, it can be made in other way too...

If you have 7 songs for example, and all them is AVRIL LAVIGNE, 3 are AVRIEL LAVIGNE, as the most of them are AVRIL LAVIGNE, radiodj or plugin fix the 3 other to the same artist name of the most.

like...
Search results for artist shows 7 results with 12 letters each one,
and 3 results wth 13 letters each one,
rename [3 results]

If number of letters in 3 results (3 is less than 7) is different than number of letters in 7 results,
make the 3 results become the same filename as 7 results.
The thing you have explained is not as simple as it may seem. Consider a situation where there are 5 incorrectly tagged tracks and 2 with correct info. If the logic is based only on numbers, after "correcting" the tracks, there would be 7 incorrectly tagged tracks. And comparing number of letters is useless for this purpose. For instance, "AVRIL LAVIGNE" has same number of letters as "NIEVY YNIVTAR", which is the same name on which I applied rot13. Can you suggest an approach for determining which one is correct?

I think, there is no better tool for this task than human brain and eyeballs using common sense.

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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 02:25:15 AM »
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For a couple of wrong names
 You can use the track manager.

Really i discovered many time ago which radiodjs track manager has an option to upercase all files, or all showed in the list. but it just fix the tags, and i think it just fix in radiodj, just the way radiodj shows us the filenames, ... i gonna take a look again.


[quoteConsider a situation where there are 5 incorrectly tagged tracks and 2 with correct info. If the logic is based only on numbers, after "correcting" the tracks, there would be 7 incorrectly tagged tracks. And comparing number of letters is useless for this purpose. For instance, "AVRIL LAVIGNE" has same number of letters as "NIEVY YNIVTAR", which is the same name on which I applied rot13. Can you suggest an approach for determining which one is correct?][/quote]

I though of this but it will make my post as big as a bible :hihi:

Well, bout AVRIL LAVIGNEs case if we have more filenames with the same letters, we just have to find a way to recognize them, in search it would be easy, Avril lavigne, is avril lavigne, but in import ur sure.

Well, this idea can be better , we all can think bout this, make this idea better.

Maybe if we have a database ifornation, maybe something like TQ wants to build, if we have a way to search name of seem artists by internet when it imports it is on internet comparin title of songs and artists, if artist in some internet database seems with artists in track being imported into radiodj, radio dj insert the name of internet database to the file. it can be hard, i know, but i am not the genius, i hope you more experients with programing, to think about a solution, im not tellin we have to have it right now in a week or month, but we can begin thinkin bout this for the future, where we just import and the softwarae fix all with a internet conection, or a already imported songs database, or even an API which brings us this informations.

Filebydate and newest from folder

seems as complicated as my futurist idea, but



who know one day :)

lets think lets put our minds to get this solution for wrong filenames/tagged :)


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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 11:02:42 AM »
Really i discovered many time ago which radiodjs track manager has an option to upercase all files, or all showed in the list. but it just fix the tags, and i think it just fix in radiodj, just the way radiodj shows us the filenames, ... i gonna take a look again.

You can also rename in the track manager.
Yes, the database is than updated, and with TAG SYNCRONIZATION  you can update the id3tags from the tracks.

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2014, 03:53:37 AM »
As with many systems, if you put crap in you get crap out simple rules of taking pride in your station.  Check and double check.

Now I do hear where you are coming from a plugin that could "listen" to the song and see if there is an audio fingerprint and then check like MusicBrainz or Shazam and see if the song is identified, if it is update the title and artist ID3 tag and allow it to write it back to the database.  However if a file is not found with a fingerprint ID place a Red Asterisk or some identifier that the programmer will be able to see so they know that they should check it.  Once confirmed information is correct remove a check mark that states check for song identification.  This check for song identification could be done when loaded in the queue to give it plenty of time to check.

For other audio elements that we know for sure will not have an audio fingerprint the checkbox "song identification" could be unchecked for it to not be part of the list to be checked.

Thoughts welcomed,

Kruz  :ok:

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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2014, 08:36:17 AM »
That is a lot more useful suggestion, Kruz.
It could be implemented as a plugin but currently there is no way for a RadioDJ plugin to modify how tracks are displayed in playlist or track manager.

On the other hand, it could have its own interface, which would replace the default track manager. Or it could be developed as standalone web interface for managing RadioDJ, which could be even more useful and versatile.

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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 11:36:16 AM »
I fixed many tags and filenames hand by hand this morning :( im so tired now, go lay down  ???

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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2019, 05:29:33 AM »
Any news aboutthis topic subject ?????


I want to get tags like year artist, album and title at least thesetags by internet by using some script like demoscript, then i would use tag sincronization to insert it to the mp3 files :).


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Re: Radio dj fixing artists filenames/tags
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2019, 02:26:21 PM »
Any news aboutthis topic subject ??? ??


I want to get tags like year artist, album and title at least thesetags by internet by using some script like demoscript, then i would use tag sincronization to insert it to the mp3 files :) .


ANY NEWS???
the other way around is to edit the tags in the tracks with, for example, an mp3 tags editor and then syngronate them to the database, only genre will not work.
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